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Yeah, that's a nice and quiet admission that their original power connector actually was the piece of shit that most of us knew it was. They did something like this back in the 2080Ti era where they released a shitload of defective silicon and lied about their failure rates. I think it was like a 20+% Failure rate instead of the 1-2% they claimed it was.Sneaky indeed.. pretty much invalidates and makes all previous 4090s obsolete. And how will current 4090 owners know which card to order for the "upgrade"?! /s
Watch your homeowner's insurance go up.I'm running full YOLO mode with an OG 4090 and a Cablemod 90 degree adapter
TBH - If my house went up in flames because of a 4090 burning up, I'd absolutely get with my insurance company to sue the shit out of Nvidia. Them changing this connector is basically an admission of guilt.Watch your homeowner's insurance go up.
Just because something is being improved doesn't mean the old one wasn't fine but for user error.TBH - If my house went up in flames because of a 4090 burning up, I'd absolutely get with my insurance company to sue the shit out of Nvidia. Them changing this connector is basically an admission of guilt.
The connector was a poor design because it so easily allowed user error. That's the issue. You don't design a consumer grade part with a connector like that. I have a 4080, and that connector blows. Further, it has very limited cycles compared to a standard PCI-E 8-Pin.Just because something is being improved doesn't mean the old one wasn't fine but for user error.
How often do you reseat your card? I usually do it a grand total of once, to move it to another system as a hand me down. Unless you're a hardware reviewer that's a silly thing to get hung up on .The connector was a poor design because it so easily allowed user error. That's the issue. You don't design a consumer grade part with a connector like that. I have a 4080, and that connector blows. Further, it has very limited cycles compared to a standard PCI-E 8-Pin.
Which is only an issue using the adapter since it requires four 8-pin cables.My only gripe with the original connector was the rats nest of cabling that didn't allow the side panel to close.
I concur. I decided to take matters into my own hands. Been running like this for the better part of the year now with zero issues and the thing is rendering daily.Which is only an issue using the adapter since it requires four 8-pin cables.
Yeah, we should totally blame a company because users cannot seat a connector properly! /sThe connector was a poor design because it so easily allowed user error. That's the issue. You don't design a consumer grade part with a connector like that. I have a 4080, and that connector blows. Further, it has very limited cycles compared to a standard PCI-E 8-Pin.
Unfortunately, I'm in the millenial age bracket.Sounds good boomer.
Almost never. Out of all the years I've been in the hobby and professionally reviewing and the two plus decades I've serviced computer hardware I've seen many revisions most people have never heard of. The only exception to the rule was with ABIT and GIGABYTE who announced major board revisions like the BX6 Rev 2.0 or anytime GIGABYTE did v1.1's or 2.0's of some of their boards. Though the latter had almost no fanfare and ABIT treated such boards as separate and newer models. However, Creative Labs NEVER said shit about them removing PCB features and redesigning cards with cheaper components over time. Neither did Adaptec or 3Com who all did the same thing. Intel never said shit about changing the south bridge cooler on the D5400XS, or anything like that. Some ASUS boards even had PCB revisions for minor things.When do companies ever announce such minor revisions to the public?
No, it doesn't. It makes the newer models more desirable but it doesn't make the older ones obsolete. People will also figure out which cards to buy though more casual consumers will still be breaking the old ones until they are gone.Sneaky indeed.. pretty much invalidates and makes all previous 4090s obsolete. And how will current 4090 owners know which card to order for the "upgrade"?! /s
Damn right. I had this thought myself. I'm not normally someone who favors the litigious nature of American society but there are cases where I think such lawsuits have merit.TBH - If my house went up in flames because of a 4090 burning up, I'd absolutely get with my insurance company to sue the shit out of Nvidia. Them changing this connector is basically an admission of guilt.
This is true.Just because something is being improved doesn't mean the old one wasn't fine but for user error.
I can see both sides of this. However, a design that allows for so many failures and problems is a bad design. That said, customers will figure out how to break stuff doing any DIY project.The connector was a poor design because it so easily allowed user error. That's the issue. You don't design a consumer grade part with a connector like that. I have a 4080, and that connector blows. Further, it has very limited cycles compared to a standard PCI-E 8-Pin.
Let me know when a house burns down from this user problem.The whole shenanigans with this connector is why I live an N-1 lifestyle. I'll let other folks be guinea pigs. I rarely have the latest and greatest of anything. Early adopters can burn their houses down, I'm good.
I love when both people in an argument are disingenuous. Calling it a user error when it's bad product design is absurd, so is claiming anyone burnt their house down over it. It was a bad design and they're rectifying it, if they thought it was just user error and not a piss poor design that led to error they wouldn't be rectifying the problem.Let me know when a house burns down from this user problem.
As far as I know the plug in cycles are the same rating as the older 8-pin - something like 30 cycles?How often do you reseat your card? I usually do it a grand total of once, to move it to another system as a hand me down. Unless you're a hardware reviewer that's a silly thing to get hung up on .