Pico-ITX

khanable said:
if it has dual LAN i'll buy one and sex the shit out of it.
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So many ways to answer that, just can't decide which one is best... :eek:

How much smaller will they try to make these? It's already a niche product which barely qualifies as a desktop, why don't they start putting the RAM and mini-PCI on the bottom of the circuitboard to pack it into an even tinier footprint?
 
16Mbps cable, yet I still have videos studdering and buffering... Bufferring...buffering...

Perhaps ive missed something, but how is the Pico-atx any smaller than, say, nano-itx? it seems to be almost the same size in that video.
 
sleepeeg3 said:
Standardize this shiznit. We need a regulatory board.
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I just want better prices. Tops I would pay for a mini-itx board is 200 bucks and a lot of them go way above that. Really like 150 tops for one without a cpu. If they could make a good one in that range I'd be all over them.
 
Shame that it will come out years after its announced and cost three times as much as it should.

Remember, its Via we're talking about ;).

Still waiting for a decent Nano-ITX board.
 
Yes, if only I could take my desktop sized IPcop router and make it something more comparable in size to my Linksys WRT54G....

I'm sure the price of these things will kinda make it out of reach at the moment.
 
Durandal said:
Shame that it will come out years after its announced and cost three times as much as it should.

Remember, its Via we're talking about ;).

Still waiting for a decent Nano-ITX board.
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agreed. In all honesty, I would love to have a wii-sized computer based around one of the tiny ITX platforms. But Via somehow manages to make their products the least accessible things on the planet. And I refuse to pay $300 for something that my spare leftover 1ghz p3 can outrun. If the price was right then heck yeah I'd spring for it, but they overcharge out the ass.
 
Eva_Unit_0 said:
agreed. In all honesty, I would love to have a wii-sized computer based around one of the tiny ITX platforms. But Via somehow manages to make their products the least accessible things on the planet. And I refuse to pay $300 for something that my spare leftover 1ghz p3 can outrun. If the price was right then heck yeah I'd spring for it, but they overcharge out the ass.
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EBX/5.25" formfactor boards fit Wii dimensions, and can be had fairly cheap on eBay.

New SBCs are much harder to find (as a hobbyist) and are even more expensive than most of what Via has turned out. The used cast-offs are much more affordable than even used Via boards, though.
 
tom61 said:
New SBCs are much harder to find (as a hobbyist) and are even more expensive than most of what Via has turned out. The used cast-offs are much more affordable than even used Via boards, though.
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Ya got that right. Paid over $350 each for my last two new 3.5" boards, but managed to get 5 used ones for around $200 total. Of course, the new ones were for Pentium-M and Merom and the used are 600MHz Via C3s.

Mini-itx.com has some new pics of it up. Tempted to call it too small. Needs cables for almost all the hookups, which negates the small size when you'e got to hide them or keep them out of the way. Requires a non-standard adapter to hook up to an ATX power supply where most new 3.5" boards take a 12v input and have the rest of the power circuit onboard. Can't see a Mini-PCI slot, which mean no easy wireless hookup. No SATA? That's just dumb to me. Nice try, but I'll stick with 3.5" boards.
 
I really want to see this soon. I just want to start my portable DIY project. If anyone finds a release date or even a hint I would love to know.
 
Heres the reply I got from VIA.

The mass production is expected to be in April.

I replied asking if I they would be available to consumers any time between May and July, and am awaiting a response.
 
They said that for Nano too. But I think they may have had problems going to a denser board. Hopefully they learned a lot from Nano and can make the Pico for less hassle. I still expect it to be between 250 and 350.


And I refuse to pay $300 for something that my spare leftover 1ghz p3 can outrun.
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I think the point of the Via platforms is not speed, but small embedded applications and small computers for people that just want internet porn. I flat out love the mini-ITX standard for robots. I get an easy to use and program for environment that sips power but is still powerful enough to do things like image recognition.
 
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