So I win a 'buy it now' for an HD4870...only the guy sends one to my work address and one to my home accidently...but he only bills me for one. I know it would be morally wrong to keep it, so today I call him and he said "I knew I had two but I really did'nt know what I did with the other one". I agree to ship it back to him for which he thanks me and then gives me a huge discount on the one I already bought.... moral: honesty can pay great dividends. I now have a $160 lifetime warrantied HD4870. It is extremely fast and stable also.