cybereality
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Why don't you just return it? Seems like too much money to have anything wrong.
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I wonder how many people have partly defective 2000 series cards and are just "living with it" or otherwise accepting the problems like this person is.
For the prices of these cards, partly working is not acceptable and warrants an immediate return/RMA.
Why go through all the trouble again? A refund seems to make more sense, IMO. Wait until there is a fix. Maybe they will even need to redo the card to fix it?I don't disagree. After the first bad card and seeing the replacement exhibit some issues... I will be RMA'ing the replacement. After it pisses me off enough. Here's the problem, I'm starting to believe that the issues really aren't just space invaders, BSODs and hard locks. My last one was just completely unstable with Artifacts and flickering. This one has the occasional artifact, some screen flickering and does not seem unstable at all. How bad is this generation in terms of flaws? Really? So, the returns are X%. Yeah, how many people live with the issues because the card works? That's a really good question.
I mulled it over. The refund does make the most sense. I'm just not ready to give up yet. Amazingly, for one day only, the card has been utterly stable. I don't trust it, but my 1080Ti founders was on the way out anyway. Either I buy a used 1080Ti or I just keep fighting with these cards until I get one that works. I still have a couple more RMA's in meWhy go through all the trouble again? A refund seems to make more sense, IMO. Wait until there is a fix. Maybe they will even need to redo the card to fix it?
I mulled it over. The refund does make the most sense. I'm just not ready to give up yet. Amazingly, for one day only, the card has been utterly stable. I don't trust it, but my 1080Ti founders was on the way out anyway. Either I buy a used 1080Ti or I just keep fighting with these cards until I get one that works. I still have a couple more RMA's in me
You’ve made comments about your 1080Ti dying. You made crazy statements about your videocard melting nearby cards. You’ve been thru a couple new cards.
Are you sure you don’t have something else going on?
I appreciate the information, when I have another 600 bucks to burn I might pick up a 1080Ti second had there if any are leftSome jerk sold me a bad amd card, eBay guarantee made it a non-issue. I wouldn’t be afraid to pull off an eBay deal.
How can a 1080 Ti "cook" a sound card? Even running at max temp (usually 86C and then it throttles), that should not be hot enough to melt anything. Something seems off about this.
It stands to reason that the video card would melt itself before it started melting things around it, but yeah. The wording of the original mention was internet gold as well.
Guys, I'm happy I've provided some level of entertainment with the way I describe things. The Blower style 1080Ti exhausts most of it's heat directly out it's back plate. The cards tend to get hot. Pretty much all the blower style cards run hotter than ones that dump their heat into a PC case. The backplane where both my 1080Ti and a pair of creative labs sound cards were connected gets really damn hot. The heat didn't actually light anything on fire, however, on my first X-Fi card it essentially destroyed the ability to push headphones . On the second card, one of those newer, shourded 3D Creative cards it did more, the card ceased to function.
I discovered it was a heat issue after burning the skin off a couple fingers when I was pulling and reseating the sound card. The metal of the sound card back plate had become discolored. After my system cooled I looked at the back of my 1080Ti, the metal of that back plate appears almost "chromatic" like metal that changed it's properties due to heat.
I've been an IT tech for too long. As such I spend way in the hell too much time alone! So , you might have to excuse some of the bizarre ways I describe things. Lol.
Update: I was asking EVGA about the advanced RMA transfer last night and mentioned the second card was exhibiting the same issues. They told me it wasn't possible, that they tested the replacements. I explained the screen flickering and artifacting and without even submitting a formal RMA they issued me a RMA on the spot, in response to my email.... That would indicate to me they've seen the issues I'm describing (at 2am) quite often.
If you have the space you could always put a slot blower between the GPU and sound card. I used to use them and wire them to 5V rather than 12V (or if you’re fancy get a voltage controller.)
Hope the replacement card works.
Also, might be a good chance to get an extra fan or upgrade the air flow in your rig.
Looks good actually.I have three 120mm intake fans, one top mounted 120mm exhaust fan, one rear 140mm exhaust fan, top mounted Arctic Water cooler for the CPU, not sure how much more ventilation I can get in this case. The Coolermaster HAF Evo I have had plenty of damn airflow as well (my Ryzen 1700 is still in that case).
This makes me wary of my replacement card...
My 2080Ti will be here Friday. I'm really hoping this card came from a different batch of chips. With some of these cards coming with Samsung ram (both of mine were Micron) makes me wonder if Nvidia had no idea what the issues were and immediately swapped the RAM on replacement boards... Or if they knew all along. Either way, I'm certain they've likely been able to isolate what's causing the issues by now and something tells me a microcode card bios update isn't gonna fix it. Something is massively flawed in their initial production "test escapes". Makes me wonder how many of these lower end 2080Ti's I'm gonna go through before I find one that works right...
Granted I'm just making an assumption but the "cheapo" 2080Ti boards are likely the worst silicon of the lineup, lol. Card 3 en route...
Gotcha.Most likely we'll see VRAM from Micron, Samsung, and Hynix and it'll be a lottery. There's no way they spun up Samsung in response to a problem.
My 2080Ti will be here Friday. I'm really hoping this card came from a different batch of chips. With some of these cards coming with Samsung ram (both of mine were Micron) makes me wonder if Nvidia had no idea what the issues were and immediately swapped the RAM on replacement boards... Or if they knew all along. Either way, I'm certain they've likely been able to isolate what's causing the issues by now and something tells me a microcode card bios update isn't gonna fix it. Something is massively flawed in their initial production "test escapes". Makes me wonder how many of these lower end 2080Ti's I'm gonna go through before I find one that works right...
Granted I'm just making an assumption but the "cheapo" 2080Ti boards are likely the worst silicon of the lineup, lol. Card 3 en route...
Gotcha.
I'm not remembering if Nvidia has ever come out and admitted anything without a class action lawsuit compelling them to, like with the 970's. So, I'm not thinking they will own up to a flaw in this series of chips, especially since their stock has been taking a serious beating. Anything else negative, like a defective product launch could cause their current hammered stock value to plummet.
I love their boards, fastest in the industry... However, I would love to see them get their asses handed to them for charging people a premium just because there is no competition.
Intel really didn't have any competition until Ryzen, however, at least you could still buy a decent i5 or i7 for a couple hundred bucks. Nvidia is gouging it's loyal customers IMO.
People always have those "reasons" lol! That's a compelling argument, 35% faster + entry level Ray Tracing that no one else has (even if I don't use it)... That's definitely better than the 5% gain Intel has been eking out per generation and remaining stagnant on the same core architecture. I'm happy [paying 999 for that gain over my stock 1080Ti FE. However, paying another 3-400 bucks for a few more Mhz of headroom... ugh... My displays don't do above 60Hz so squeezing the OC out of the higher binned cards just didn't make any sense to me.
Yes, yes... my 1080Ti seemed sort of sufficient for 4K, however, the 2080Ti really nails it for me. I agree, once I tasted it I just can't let go. Regardless of how damn painful it's been thus far. Not sure what happened to my Advanced RMA... I emailed EVGA about it, but the second replacement didn't carry the next day service, it shipped ground. Need to have another discussion with customer service.I mean if I wasn't trying to push 4K then I wouldn't have any interest in one, but here we are. It's hard to put that genie back in the bottle once the chase begins.
I'm jealous, I'm playing with my artifacting and flickering card at the moment until Friday. Hopefully the third card is not just another damn repeat offender.I got my replacement. Now to test in gaming. So far so good.
I know I have mentioned "media blackout" before on the Nvidia 2000 series cards... This is the only mention, off this site, I could find on the net on the Tom's Hardware forums:
Is my 2080ti dead?
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EpicKillerDec 13, 2018, 7:47 AM
Hey everyone.
So, I was just on my PC and suddenly the screen goes black and the fans on the 2080ti speed up massively and there is no signal to my monitor. I rebooted and the same thing again but there never was any display.
Anyway, I swap it out for my 1070 and now everything is working so I am inclined to think the card is defective.
What are your guys thoughts?
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- xSimply1337x Dec 13, 2018, 7:54 AM
Most likely. If you weren't keeping up with the news when you decided to purchase the 20 series you may not have noticed that more than enough people have had to RMA their 20 series cards for a number of reasons all of which have the end result that they are dead. Which is why I am totally content with keeping my 1080 Ti and will consider 20 series only when it's confirmed that it won't die like the others. Or I'll end up waiting for the next generation of cards.
There's been NOTHING mentioned anywhere else since the end of November. I'm kind of curious because I'm working on my third card here, the first two were (are) utter crap. First Card, artifacting, flickering and game crashing. Second Card, initial flickering, then stuttering in games and now artifacting...
The problem is that the NV dice are weighted, at the moment, even if it was a D100 it would roll high on the chances to get a bum video card (IMO).It's a dice roll... a D5. Maybe a D4?
The problem is that the NV dice are weighted, at the moment, even if it was a D100 it would roll high on the chances to get a bum video card (IMO).
What is their method of pretesting? Turning it on, it displays video, its good?I mean if you get a third bad card in a row and EVGA is pretesting them, I’d at least consider that perhaps something else could be problematic. Whether that is hardware, software, drivers, who knows.. but at least consider.
I know you’ve already swapped the case, so you’ve been doing that.
I mean if you get a third bad card in a row and EVGA is pretesting them, I’d at least consider that perhaps something else could be problematic. Whether that is hardware, software, drivers, who knows.. but at least consider.
I know you’ve already swapped the case, so you’ve been doing that.
I always consider all the components in the chassis. However when I'm getting the same issues in my Ryzen build and my Devil's Canyon i7 And in my current i5 9600 , it's the card. I have 3 complete systems in my house, all attached to 4K displays of different makes and models.
When I'm dropping in my 1080Ti or regular 1080 and everything just works... It's a bad card. Hell, I have a pair of GTX 660's on hand, that just work...
So, yeah, I considered it initially... I just have several systems to test it on, not many people I know have a computer in every room that they can test on.