Creative Labs Recon3D Fatal1ty 5.1Ch PCIe Card $35

Yeah that is a good deal only if you are desperate and can't afford a Titanium or Z series.
 
Ya you don't need a new one. Even the Z is BARELY better then the Titanium. I think it has a slightly newer chipset. Which effects only stereo or something.
 
Not better than many of the previous versions. But Win8 drivers that work and better than onboard for $35. It's still a good deal IMHO.
 
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