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Why lock in the first place? People were still chatting . Yep, I saw it go back down yesterday, just couldn't post and was too lazy to make a new thread .Bump and unlocked for $1799.99!
As I stated above, I've played a bunch of DV content from my PC that comes through just fine on the S90C that looked greenish on my old LG CX (which IS dolby vision capable). It must convert it to standard HDR/HDR10. I'd be pretty shocked if the S89C was different.
Hmm, well my main tv now supports DV and works fine, my TV in my bedroom does not support DV and any DV titles I play through my nvidia shield there via Plex comes out green.. don't want to drop 2k on this TV if there is a chance of having that issue.
Interesting. I've played quite a few DV files on my PC using VLC (on my S90C), and they worked fine. I have run across one DV file that didn't play back properly. It was a Dolby Vision Profile 5 file. Older ones didn't have an issue. I looked it up, and apparently Profile 5 doesn't have cross compatibility.Couldn't avoid this deal. But the DV thing is a problem. My LG Oled streaming from plex has no issues (of course, it supports DV), the new samsung pops up an error message that says "Playback Error" - "File is unplayable. Color space is not supported."
Had this beast for a week now:
4. YT HDR is stunning must select input plus to display HDR.
Interesting. I've played quite a few DV files on my PC using VLC (on my S90C), and they worked fine. I have run across one DV file that didn't play back properly. It was a Dolby Vision Profile 5 file. Older ones didn't have an issue. I looked it up, and apparently Profile 5 doesn't have cross compatibility.
Has Samsung changed their stance on Dolby Vision? Or do they still not support it, and everything else is a work around?
It may have more adoption for movies, but on PC it's all HDR. There might be a game out there that does Dolby Vision, but I've only seen a bunch with HDR.Yes, it's exactly this. There's plenty of DV profile 5 stuff, and it plays fine on my LG and doesn't play at all on this one. It's a shame, really. DV has won the HDR battle and there's a chance that this problem is going to get worse instead of better. As you say "older ones didn't have an issue"
Yeah it is a shame. I like Samsung for the sets that I get which is the midrange sets. I feel they are a good value in price for the features/cleanliness that you get, not as cheap as a Hisense or TCL set but then not as expensive as a Sony. That said if I was going high end set I probably would steer away from Samsung specifically because of this stubbornnessSamsung continues to, stubbornly, refuse to support Dolby Vision. They still claim that HDR10+ is better. As KevinG said, Dolby Vision has clearly won the HDR war. Samsung is only going to end up hurting themselves if they don’t pull their heads out of their asses and actually support the standard that everyone is starting to use now.
I'd say the only thing that bugs me more than #2 is someone wall mounting a nice TV and then not paying $50-100 for a cord concealment kit and a jab saw. Nothing worse imo than a wall-mounted TV with cables hanging all over the place.Two quick questions:
- How does this TV compare to Sony 85 Inch Mini LED 4K Ultra HD TV X93L Series? Everything I read over at AVS says that it's a better TV.
- Not really a question, but more of a tip: When buying a large TV save some money to buy a larger (longer) TV console. Nothing looks more out of place than a TV that is longer than your TV console. My console is 120 inches and I'm still deciding on which 85" to get.
From my understanding Samsung colors are oversaturated and look cartoony while Sony's look more natural. Any truth in that?
Yeah the DV thing initially had me holding off on Samsung as well, but at this price point I just don't think DV makes enough of a difference to persuade me toYeah it is a shame. I like Samsung for the sets that I get which is the midrange sets. I feel they are a good value in price for the features/cleanliness that you get, not as cheap as a Hisense or TCL set but then not as expensive as a Sony. That said if I was going high end set I probably would steer away from Samsung specifically because of this stubbornness
Ngl, I hate that idea because the ala carte features could go sideways real quick, but I like the idea because it seems as an easy fix to add in extra features.... that said not sure I'd even be possible, but even if it was Samsung wants to sell NEW tvs not sell upgrades so no way they would do it.I do hope Samsung puts the decision in the hands of the consumer, maybe at some point we can just buy the DV license and tack it on via firmware or something.
Yeah it could be a slippery slope but I think overall major features are pretty silo'd in anyone's top 5 feature list. There's rumors of Amazon trying to limit 3rd party competitor apps on Fire TVs and sticks similar to their Fire tablets and Alexa devices, but if they do that they're going to really make them niche devices and force them to be sold at even steeper discounts than they are now (probably at a loss). I don't expect 3rd party TV makers to take a stance like that, if anything Samsung and Sony have gone out of their way to improve support for other devices beyond what the native OS or their own preferred device OS supports, like casting on Apple devices instead of just Android like their own phones. There's also rumors Samsung and Google/Youtube are trying to remove Dolby Atmos and replace it with their own positional audio IAMF.... I just know if Atmos gets removed there's going to be an even bigger consumer backlash, especially since Samsung sells so many soundbars. Crazy how these royalties create such odd bedfellows.Ngl, I hate that idea because the ala carte features could go sideways real quick, but I like the idea because it seems as an easy fix to add in extra features.... that said not sure I'd even be possible, but even if it was Samsung wants to sell NEW tvs not sell upgrades so no way they would do it.
Sony was a holdout that recently joined the Dolby Vision fold, and many Sony TVs that sold without Dolby Vision support initially now can thanks to a recent software update.
Unless they have financial incentive to not do. I used to love SteamLink on my Q70, it was great for streaming emulator games to the big TV to play. Then one day the app stopped loading, and go to find out Samsung cut support to it, but not just support they made sure it never worked anymore, why? I dunno... maybe it has something to do with that Xbox logo that now popped up on my set, and if I delete the app it reinstalls itself. So yeah no hope in Samsung ever doing something good unless they also get paid for itif anything Samsung and Sony have gone out of their way to improve support for other devices beyond what the native OS or their own preferred device OS supports, like casting on Apple devices instead of just Android like their own phones.
I imagine it'll keep dropping to $1799 periodically until they are sold out and the '24 panels start rolling in, pretty sure that has historically been in the May/June timeframe. They've already dropped the MSRP from $3499 to $2299 and current sale price is $2199, so just $100 off. But BestBuy frequently does weekend flash sales and March Madness lead up will definitely be another TV blow-out, so anyone who wants this TV or already bought it, I would recommend hit the Save for Later flag on the TV and signing up for at least the free tier of their membership program (to be able to see member pricing) but also for the chance to get a price match if they drop the price below the $1799 low that got most people to bite. I have the 60 day price match window so I still a bit more than a month to get a price match.I'm hoping this comes back down to $1799 again soon. Maybe with March Madness coming up the TV prices will drop like they do around the Super Bowl. If they do, I'm pulling the trigger on this immediately.
Samsung does look more saturated as a whole. I have a 65" LG C3 and a 77" S95C. The C3 looks amazing until I out then side by side. I prefer the Samsung look better, hands down. I've only seen a G3 in store so I can't do an apples to apples.I'm still totally confused about this Samsung and the Sony X93L. Remember how back in the day you only had plasma and before that CRT? Now it seems like there's half a dozen different display tech options and every year they keep introducing new display tech. And from the research I've done at the AVS forums they recommend the Sony X93L because it has true colors while Samsung colors are "cartoony".
Sony tax.I went to Best Buy over the weekend and spent a lot of time looking at TVs, especially 75-77" TVs, and a lot of them seemed to be in the $1,800 price range. Not sure why Sony X93L justifies $1,000 + price difference.
Honestly I'm surprised anyone would compare the X93L to the S90c. The samsung definitely has a much wider color gambit in HDR. The LG lineup doesnt have nearly as wide color gambit as samsung. Even the LG C2 and C3 cant compare.I'm still totally confused about this Samsung and the Sony X93L. Remember how back in the day you only had plasma and before that CRT? Now it seems like there's half a dozen different display tech options and every year they keep introducing new display tech. And from the research I've done at the AVS forums they recommend the Sony X93L because it has true colors while Samsung colors are "cartoony".
Yes, I just saw this as well. We primarily stream standard high def content like YouTube TV, Netflix, etc., and almost no 4k content or DVD/Bluray playback. And zero gaming. Is this Samsung still the better choice over the LG C3?Back to $1799 for the weekend, also if you plan to mount it and you don't have 2 able bodied adults to lift roughly 45lbs each over their shoulders (varies based on height of person and mount), you may consider paying for the professional installation. This thing is a beast lol.
Just got mine set up on Wednesday. Loving it so far. Thanks for the heads up.
Black levels are very good and so far no real problem with glare but I'm in AK so real test of glare will be May thru SeptemberHow are the black levels and glare?
We bought the 50 dollar mount works great.Stand is not adjustable. It’s essentially the same as a s90c. I’m not sure what your particular needs are, but if you can afford a $2k tv why not mount it?
No image quality issues in this prince range.We bought the 50 dollar mount works great.
I got a 65" c9 just sitting in the corner not being used now also... Have like over 10k hours on it.First one came with two gnarly cracks on the screen. Replacement came and has been flawless. Man, what a TV! I own an older LG 65in c9 and a new 42in c3 (for pc), and man, I dont think ive turned on the 65in since the samsung arrived. Such an amazing package at an awesome price.