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I myself wouldn't chance it, but you might be okay. I'd go no lower than 1000W and either a platinum or titanium rated power supply.
This is my take as well.Also if you use your rig a lot and keep your psu's for a long time, then a platinum or higher psu may actually be cheaper over time via efficiency.
What model is it exactly? There are a whole gamut of EVGA units out there in the 850w class from excellent to trash level.
What was the point of this? If you're aiming to get "chancy" anyways, then why ask? You can easily just find the max TDP numbers of all the parts (or just dial them into PCPartpicker and it will add them up for you) and then do the math and see if it fits within the power envelope of your current "chancy" PSU. Alternatively, don't even bother with that. Just yolo swag throw it in for ultimate gambling, because heck most computers aren't actually going to be using their CPUs and GPUs going at full throttle basically ever, in real world use, right? You "probably" won't run into any issues, right? There's really no point in spending like less than 10% of how much you just spent on that CPU+GPU to upgrade to 1kW PSU that "definitely" won't have any issues, and will be reusable for several builds down the line... right?
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Thats a solid unit. Built by FSP. It's an older platform so it may or may not handle the transients of your 4090. It certainly wont kill anything if you try it out.210-GQ-0850-RX. Its probably many years old though, new in the box though.
I didn't say I was going to use my "chancy" PSU...I just think that its often blown out of proportion of how well they work and handle things.
210-GQ-0850-RX. Its probably many years old though, new in the box though.
I didn't say I was going to use my "chancy" PSU...I just think that its often blown out of proportion of how well they work and handle things.
I didn't say I was going to use my "chancy" PSU...I just think that its often blown out of proportion of how well they work and handle things.
This has been the saying since I got into computers in the 90's. Still applies today.StoleMyCar said it perfect. If you drop that much coin on a GPU.... get the PSU to match. Don't cheap out.
As far as I can see, the PSU you listed is Tier B on the cultist list.
Some people speed in cars. Some people smoke cigars. They can do that for months, years, and maybe their whole lives... and have nothing bad happen. Are the dangers just overblown then? What happens if something does happen? Look at after-wreck pictures of speeders (well or their victims), or people hooked up to hospital equipment due to long term effects of smoking. I know, far from a perfect analogy.
Point is, you just spent about 2300+++ USD on a (excessively) top end GPU/CPU/Motherboard/etc. That's more than 1-2 mortgage payments. All of that will also probably be showing its age well within 5 years. You're being wishy washy about spending <<9-15% of that (depending on Gold or Platinum) on a nice 1-1.2kW PSU unit that you know won't have issues, to protect that investment (and possibly many other investments) long term, which will also last probably 10+ years, throughout multiple rebuilds?
I don't see the logic. The PSU is one of the most futureproof things you can buy. I still have a TX650 from like 15 years ago that's alive and kicking. My tone would be different if you didn't just buy a >1.6k USD graphics card. Like, you clearly have the money... well, do what you want I guess.
The logic is, is it necessary? You can buy a million Dollar home or more that doesn’t mean you need a $10,000 cutlery set. My 4090 under cpu limited scenarios uses less power than my 3080 did and in more GPU intensive games, just marginally more.
Upgrading a PSU that doesn’t need to be upgraded is a luxury expense. Analogy works.That's completely faulty logic and a horrible analogy, even for most analogy standards. A $10,000 cutlery, or any cutlery set, is nothing but luxury. It doesn't functionally impact your manor in any way unless you hired a professional cook that could properly utilize said cutlery to prepare food faster. Your mansion doesn't have any chance of randomly burning down or being destroyed by said cutlery, and is fundamentally unaffected by whether you buy it or not.
A slightly more apt analogy would be getting a large property/estate that doesn't closely border any trees and hence deciding to forego termite treatment that would cost you $10,000... because chances are it won't happen. Except that's still not quite accurate. The PSU is feeding your computer energy every single second it's on. It's basically the foundation of your computer's (and many computers you will create thereafter) continued operation. Do you want a good foundation or a bad one?
Upgrading a PSU that doesn’t need to be upgraded is a luxury expense. Analogy works.
I guess you also go through your home and I graded all your electrical to 0 gauge wiring for your 15 amp circuits? I mean they are feeding your devices 24/7 right?
maybe you need to read more reviews. Quality PSU are able to maintain their rated output with a wide variety of input voltage and noise.No it doesn't work. It's full of a lot of holes, but your second line is exactly the main point. Power supplies have to deal with a lot of shit from your street voltage and house wiring (and fixing that can be expensive, as you're clearly alluding whether you realize it or not). When they do power supply reviews (or they used to last I looked), a lot of what would go into the rating is how clean and consistent the power delivery to the component is and other such factors. You're suggesting that powering over $2400 of equipment... on a unit that's ranked B (not A) on a much-cited ranking list... and is going to basically be pushed near the cusp of its maximum power draw in worst case scenarios... is a good idea, and as such is just totally unnecessary to upgrade? We clearly won't agree on this. I personally think it's asinine to put something this expensive on anything but a very highly rated unit, considering the amount of extra money spent on it would be nothing compared to the setup, and year over year might even pay for itself depending on efficiency gains.
maybe you need to read more reviews. Quality PSU are able to maintain their rated output with a wide variety of input voltage and noise.
Looking forward to your next long winded rant.
Sound like someone who thinks there’s more than two gendersI like how you're literally arguing against yourself with that statement, because that was exactly a large portion of my point. Well whatever, since you're just trolling at this point, here's your long winded rant: blocked. Bye.
My Seasonic-built Corsair 850W unit recently hit 13 years of daily operation. I will probably replace it when I build my next system though.The PSU is one of the most futureproof things you can buy.