erek
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Heavy tooI didn’t realize those cards were as big as 5800 Ultra’s.
It's a testament to XGI's half-assedness that they'd mix and match bargain bin components into the design of their flagship GPU. Just... wow.I'd love to recap one of those cards. The vomit spectrum capacitors set my OCD off. Definitely not worth the $2000 price though, maybe one day I'll stumble upon one cheap.
Seriously, they use garbage United Chemi-Con (probably KZG or KZE) garbage right next to what look like high dollar Sanyo Polymer capacitors. Also looks like some Teapo-Cheapo on there as well.
It'd look amazing in all red Wurth capacitors.
I'd love to recap one of those cards. The vomit spectrum capacitors set my OCD off. Definitely not worth the $2000 price though, maybe one day I'll stumble upon one cheap.
Seriously, they use garbage United Chemi-Con (probably KZG or KZE) garbage right next to what look like high dollar Sanyo Polymer capacitors. Also looks like some Teapo-Cheapo on there as well.
It'd look amazing in all red Wurth capacitors.
mines is in desperate need of recapping.. a plethora of them were bulging, possibly leaking even...It's a testament to XGI's half-assedness that they'd mix and match bargain bin components into the design of their flagship GPU. Just... wow.
Those V8 Ultra GPU chips are getting rare too to be destroyed by that raw DC currentYeah, not a great idea to use electronics with failed caps. They turn into resistors and pass DC current, putting heavy load on other things in circuit.
About as rare as Kyro / Kyro II.. ? idk.. cool looking card though.Those V8 Ultra GPU chips are getting rare too to be destroyed by that raw DC current
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Those V8 Ultra GPU chips are getting rare too to be destroyed by that raw DC current
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Oh man, the Parhelia. With a hardware memory controller and improvement to their engineering tolerances they could have had a winner. As it was, the shader flexibility was ahead of GeForce3/4 but behind the Radeon 8500, and despite touting OpenGL 2.0 compliance there were some extensions that simply never worked correctly. I get the feeling it was a simpler problem to make it work for contemporary productivity and multimedia than the eclectic clusterfuck of gaming circa 2004. It managed Unreal and Source Engine games of the time pretty well (even managed Team Fortress 2 at launch, though probably not since the Hatpocalypse), but Doom 3 and Far Cry were both very iffy to nonfunctional. It can't be overstated how much the inefficient memory bandwidth hurt the card - it was a monster built on a 4x4 pipeline/TMU config, and literally couldn't keep the core fed. The derivative M-series PCIe cards with cut-down P650-ish variants of the core managed to punch up the Direct3D support enough to make WDDM drivers possible, but are still dog slow. Matrox has since moved on to opportunistically making products for their market niches based on GPUs from other vendors, and that's okay - the time since Parhelia suggests their time for making competitive parts was simply past them.These things when they came out, not quite making the promises of the Parhelia, were still some serious eyeball fodder.
Thanks erek for bringing me back a day or two in a better life/world
You would be willing to recap it?Best get it recapped if you plan on keeping it working long term. The electrolyte is corrosive, if there's any on the board, it's going to start eating it.
You would be willing to recap it?
any estimates?If you want me to, I can.
The drillBest estimate I can say is probably a few hundred. I charge time and materials, my rates haven't changed in a long time, but capacitors and shipping have gone through the roof.
Depending on what type of capacitors you want, it can be more or less expensive. If you just wanted normal quality electrolytics, it'd be cheaper. If you wanted higher quality polymer capacitors that last a lot longer, it'd be more expensive. Normal electrolytics can range from 15 cents to a bit over a dollar, depending on capacitance and voltage. Polymer caps are usually several dollars a piece.
I usually use polymers on video cards because of the heat, but it's whatever you prefer.
Your card has turned out to be a monster with hidden problems. I'm having to consult with Razorwind because of RAM and mosfet issues.
Recapping the card alone took 12 hours, here's the result so far. I had to use three soldering irons, a hot air station and my desoldering station all at the same time to get many of the capacitors off the board. On top of using a 183C low melt solder to dilute the existing solder. This thing is like all power planes, it sinks heat like an iron skillet.
The card booted fine and ran doom 3Your card has turned out to be a monster with hidden problems. I'm having to consult with Razorwind because of RAM and mosfet issues.
Recapping the card alone took 12 hours, here's the result so far. I had to use three soldering irons, a hot air station and my desoldering station all at the same time to get many of the capacitors off the board. On top of using a 183C low melt solder to dilute the existing solder. This thing is like all power planes, it sinks heat like an iron skillet.
Agree, looks goodNew caps in red look nice on that board.
This recap seems at least semi-historicYour card has turned out to be a monster with hidden problems. I'm having to consult with Razorwind because of RAM and mosfet issues.
Recapping the card alone took 12 hours, here's the result so far. I had to use three soldering irons, a hot air station and my desoldering station all at the same time to get many of the capacitors off the board. On top of using a 183C low melt solder to dilute the existing solder. This thing is like all power planes, it sinks heat like an iron skillet.
Opinion on the video of it running?With the number of failed capacitors, I honestly don't know how the card was even running. The problem I'm having right now is what I think are three SOIC-8 package mosfets(?) on the upper rear of the card under that small long heatsink are getting smoking hot. Like after just 5 seconds, they're 125C+.
Several capacitors in this area that I pulled off were either shorted, open or had turned into resistors, which may have broken the circuit and allowed the card to run in that state. Not sure how, I've seen stranger things. Right now, the card just displays garbage on powerup.
I'm having hell getting that heatsink off to try and figure out which of the three are running smoking hot, but the adhesive XGI used is insane. I've tried heat, freezing, cycling both rapidly with a tortional load from pliers and it still won't come off. I'm going to have to resort to using a razor to wedge between those mosfets and the heatsink to get it off.