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Any suggestion for UPS? For sure for to protect an 4000€+ of PC desktop i can spend 400€ or more for an UPSUnless you're going to rewire your home to provide 240 V (I'm guessing you're on US 120 V) and/or 20-30 A at that outlet, and also pay many hundreds to thousands of dollars more for the UPS itself, it's gonna have to be.
But yeah, it'll probably be fine at stock. IIRC Nvidia recommends for the 4090 a PSU that can provide at least 850 W, so actual draw should be comfortably less than the limits of a top home/consumer UPS.
If you are in Europe, you can get 2200VA UPS, although pricey when new, you can find used ones that require batteries for much cheaper.Any suggestion for UPS? For sure for to protect an 4000€+ of PC desktop i can spend 400€ or more for an UPS
That's an overkill. I saw it used for 500 in ebay, it's sure? or i should get just an simple Surge Protector?If you are in Europe, you can get 2200VA UPS, although pricey when new, you can find used ones that require batteries for much cheaper.
https://www.apc.com/us/en/product/S...-outlets-smartconnect-port+smartslot-avr-lcd/
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Ya, just get this one,That's an overkill. I saw it used for 500 in ebay, it's sure? or i should get just an simple Surge Protector?
It looks great but it's 900w , that's ok?Ya, just get this one,
https://www.amazon.com/APC-Battery-Protector-BackUPS-BX1500M/dp/B06VY6FXMM
Simple Surge Protector doesn't protect from brown-outs or powerloss.
It's fine. You probably went way overkill with that 1500W PSU and this only needs to give you 5-10m to shutdown in the event of a power outage.It looks great but it's 900w , that's ok?
VA does not equal W... 1500va is 900w. Just FYI.
It looks great but it's 900w , that's ok?
well that solves that then.North American homes are largely 15amp 120v circuits and the largest UPS then will be 1500VA
In contrast to the others, I'm going to put out a conditional maybe.It looks great but it's 900w , that's ok?
In contrast to the others, I'm going to put out a conditional maybe.
It depends on what you're doing, your CPU and how hard you're pushing things. The 900W is for what the PSU draws, not just your system. Consider your PSU efficiency because it counts against the total.
I have a 900W unit for my system in sig. I'm not a typical CPU/GPU/drive user, but if I fully load my CPU (350W, but not far off from an Intel turbo power) and GPU, I'll hit the power limit and the UPS alarm will go off. I immediately killed the tasks so I don't know what happens if I let it go (probably bad).
I'm not trying to talk you out of getting a UPS. I'm absolutely not giving mine up; it's a vital part of my system, but rather be aware of your wall power usage and watch out for cases that might put you out of the UPS' limits.
The UPS limit It could an problem , also because i want to OC CPU and GPU a bitIn contrast to the others, I'm going to put out a conditional maybe.
It depends on what you're doing, your CPU and how hard you're pushing things. The 900W is for what the PSU draws, not just your system. Consider your PSU efficiency because it counts against the total.
I have a 900W unit for my system in sig. I'm not a typical CPU/GPU/drive user, but if I fully load my CPU (350W, but not far off from an Intel turbo power) and GPU, I'll hit the power limit and the UPS alarm will go off. I immediately killed the tasks so I don't know what happens if I let it go (probably bad).
I'm not trying to talk you out of getting a UPS. I'm absolutely not giving mine up; it's a vital part of my system, but rather be aware of your wall power usage and watch out for cases that might put you out of the UPS' limits.
The UPS limit It could an problem , also because i want to OC CPU and GPU a bit
Rtx 4090 suprim x liquid;Give more detail cause remember a 15amp 120V line only has 1800W to give. Residential or not and where, what's the power supply on the circuit.
So the 1800 is why most if not all res UPS tops at 900W.Half the circuit. But your PSU isn't pulling 1500W.
4090s pull 450 or so. What exactly is the rest of the system that is pulling more than 450W on a regular basis where the UPS won't be enough ?
Talk about overkill power supply. If you were pushing Alder Lake / Raptor Lake (refresh) hard you can justify 1000W or higher, but not so much with a 7800X3D...Rtx 4090 suprim x liquid;
7800x3d ;
64 GB z5 neo 6000mhz;
SSD M2 1tb Samsung 990pro;
SSD M2 4tb Samsung 990pro;
MSI carbon x670e;
fractal torrent EAtx;
Hx1500i atx 3.0;
Cooler masterair MA824.
I saw around that people said about to get an psu With 1000w for to handle 4090 and to stay Safe
Ya, just get this one,
https://www.amazon.com/APC-Battery-Protector-BackUPS-BX1500M/dp/B06VY6FXMM
Simple Surge Protector doesn't protect from brown-outs or powerloss.
The purpose it was the future proof and future upgrades. Since MSI adviced about for rtx 4090, to have around 850w , 1000w for to be totally safe.Talk about overkill power supply. If you were pushing Alder Lake / Raptor Lake (refresh) hard you can justify 1000W or higher, but not so much with a 7800X3D...
Get this one below and call it a day. I use this exact model on my 5950X / 4090 rig along with two monitors and a Netgear GS110EMX switch and it never gets close to being fully loaded. I do like APC and will buy them over CyberPower and whatever else in the consumer segment.
so you went 1500w?!1000w for to be totally safe.
I've got an EVGA 1600Watt Titanium PSU in mine, lol. Only got it since it was on sale for half price. thing is massive too.so you went 1500w?!
Yep, it appears you are correct. It has the 20 amp plug. I think thnk is superflous as the amperage is there to support the VA. All I can think of is that the charging mechanism on the UPS must be very aggressive. Unless they truly think people are just going to regularly overload the circuit.Yes any UPS > 1500VA will usually have a 20A plug. I've seen UPS (SmartUPS specifically) both 2200 and 3000VA models wired with 15A plugs on them! And they indeed work fine. However one could easily inadvertently overload the line circuit by connecting too many devices to said UPS. SmartUPS 3000VA models are supposed to be powered by a dedicated 30A 120VAC circuit in the US. Adapters to change the plug to 15A are commonly available in RV stores.
If you want the best protection invest in double conversion or ferroresonant based UPS systems. Voltage swings +/- 40VAC and complete blackouts, monitoring output on scope shows absolutely zero change in power output! And you can use a generator with DC output to keep the batteries charges and theoretically have infinite run time. But it will cost you!
It Will cost me 1000€? The electricity isn't my field. But for to protect an PC desktop that i have invested 4000€+ , i could make the effort for It.Yes any UPS > 1500VA will usually have a 20A plug. I've seen UPS (SmartUPS specifically) both 2200 and 3000VA models wired with 15A plugs on them! And they indeed work fine. However one could easily inadvertently overload the line circuit by connecting too many devices to said UPS. SmartUPS 3000VA models are supposed to be powered by a dedicated 30A 120VAC circuit in the US. Adapters to change the plug to 15A are commonly available in RV stores.
If you want the best protection invest in double conversion or ferroresonant based UPS systems. Voltage swings +/- 40VAC and complete blackouts, monitoring output on scope shows absolutely zero change in power output! And you can use a generator with DC output to keep the batteries charges and theoretically have infinite run time. But it will cost you!
This will work:It Will cost me 1000€? The electricity isn't my field. But for to protect an PC desktop that i have invested 4000€+ , i could make the effort for It.
I have my modem and other network gear on a UPS as well so when the power goes out and I am gaming, I can game for another 5-10 minutes till my main UPS runs out and the UPS on the network gear will run for around 2 hours so I can surf the net on my laptop, phone, or tablet if the power is out for a long time, or game online with my SteamDeckFor someone that game on a computer (the never an issue to have any dataloss on it type of usage) any benefit versus a regular surge protector bar ? That seem to be good money being considered here, for a gaming desktop.
Is it only really useful for firmware-bios upgrade ?
I would like to know the answerFor someone that game on a computer (the never an issue to have any dataloss on it type of usage) any benefit versus a regular surge protector bar ? That seem to be good money being considered here, for a gaming desktop.
Is it only really useful for firmware-bios upgrade ?
It really depends on your power quality and weather. Do you experience frequent flickers or outages?I would like to know the answer
Lucky you! While my network equipment is on UPSes, if my power goes out, my internet service goes, too. I think it's because most outages around here are trees severing/damaging all the service lines as they go down. We'll even lose most of our cell service.I have my modem and other network gear on a UPS as well so when the power goes out and I am gaming, I can game for another 5-10 minutes till my main UPS runs out and the UPS on the network gear will run for around 2 hours so I can surf the net on my laptop, phone, or tablet if the power is out for a long time, or game online with my SteamDeck
APC SmartUPS is what you want.I'm also looking for a good UPS, one with these features:
- Pure sine wave
- min. 8 outlets
- Quiet/silent operation
- No toxic plastic chemical smell (if you read Amazon reviews, many models have horrible smells)
I'm also looking for a good UPS, one with these features:
- Pure sine wave
- min. 8 outlets
- Quiet/silent operation
- No toxic plastic chemical smell (if you read Amazon reviews, many models have horrible smells)
From a quick read, UPS simulate AC current, some do it with a very rough square wave, other simulate more or better the sinus with multiple step, some do a near perfect pure one, some PSU had issue with some simulated AC wave ?What do you mean by 'pure' sine wave or better question what do you need pure sine wave for?