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Unfortunately I need DP for 4k60 output, I realize OP wasn't clear on that. thanks for your response though!

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Already have a skylake setup and need to ditch the mATX for ITX for a project. Trying to keep costs in check, I need 4k60hz output so anything with a DisplayPort output is probably fine (i.e. non-Z chipsets/lower end boards) but I'm open to whatever you've got Prices shipped to 08648

Yes, I agree. My point was that the narrative of AMD "baiting" nvidia with some pre-planned gotcha move is stupid and all PR fluff. Did AMD have this price in their back pocket? Yea, almost definitely. Would they have liked to launch at $50 higher? Absolutely. The game of cat and mouse isn't...

An AMD marketing slide had a price, Nvidia drops their price to play spoiler followed by AMD marketing saying "ha we got you, we actually meant $50 less than we said this whole time!" and you're demanding that the skeptic provide proof that they DIDN'T mean to do this the whole time? Sorry but...

So I've been a little out of the loop on the nitty gritty details for AMD stuff for the last decade or so, but I've gotten the impression that a lot of hand-wringing and stuff was going on with ryzen and ram timings/speeds etc. I've been looking at Ryzen 2 as a possible upgrade and it seems like...

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unfortunately i need more than 1 slot to house my tuner as well as the GPU

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unfortunately i'm limited by the case to mATX. thanks for the offer!

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Bring offers. Currently running a DH77EB Intel board that doesn't want to boot with my recently acquired RX560. looking for a mATX mobo that might work with the 560 and my current CPU or a CPU/mobo combo to replace it. 1155 mobos, newer CPU/mobo combos, combos that include RAM all entertained...

bought a sucker's edition vanilla 1080 because stock was so pathetic early on. Water cooled it and replaced 2x290X's. Wasn't expecting it to be as huge of an upgrade as it was, even in games that made halfway decent use of CF. Room has been much cooler as well, which is an underrated bonus.

Yup, but current cycle has been going since 2011 (7970 vs 680)... pretty much an eternity in GPU time. AMD has been trailing on power efficiency ever since then.

That card is called the 1070 and its been out for well over a year. Yea, the 56 beats it in a few games, loses to it in a couple others, but the 1070 has been out for a whole damn year and uses like, half the power. Why is the 56 anything to get excited about? If you're telling me they're going...

Over a year late and 200 watts short of a winner. I'm with the guy who said he's glad he didn't wait for this because I've been enjoying my 1080 for over a year and would probably buy it again today if I was in the market. Its nice to see that AMD does at least have a competitive card in terms...

Seems like a lot of people took the "post ONCE" thing quite literally

Yea, I mean... I guess the consistency is reassuring in the sense that it means AMD did a good job of getting pretty much everything they could out of it in its current form. Still, The old days of overclocking come to mind. I remember buying my AXP 1700+ and being stoked it had a DLT3C stepping...

Bulldozer was a turd and the bang for buck really wasn't as great as the AMD fanboys wanted to make it out to be because the performance was so bad and the thermals were so much worse than Intel that they couldn't sell it cheap enough to make it a good value. That was my assessment as a long...

A very nice upgrade for all those who bought into the gaming revolution and are still sitting on their FX8350's. For the rest of us who value actual gaming performance, theres nothing much to see here Snarky responses aside, I think its a nice result, just not a grand slam. Its a massive boon...

I think in terms of GPU's being compared the 1080 is an obvious choice. I would say Titan X-P would be interesting, if only because I'd like to see where it differs practically speaking from the 1080Ti.... but they might be too close to justify the time. Fury X? Why even bother? Just to see how...

Look at the relative die area for the CPU cores vs the GPU's on the newest chips. the GPU is more than half of the chip. Intel has been focusing these chips on lower power envelopes and improving graphics for laptops. I'm not a chip engineer, but I'm willing to guess that unless transistors get...

Great article, really well done there Brent/Kyle. I guess my takeaway is that yes, improvements occur over time, but the only meaningful improvement comes when a card/driver combo has some substantial "issues" in a game that need to be "fixed" in a new driver. This isn't really a surprise...

I'm intrigued by curved ultrawides, but do I think it would be the biggest upgrade I could make? um, no... I just feel like its kind of an interesting spot in terms of screen real-estate, DPI, refresh rate, and immersion. 4K doesn't appeal to me right now because 4K monitors are all too small...

Doesn't really compute again though.... How is that limiting the AIB models? The FE board is engineered to deliver everything the silicon can handle. The proof is in the overclocks. If it was under-engineered then AIB's would have more headroom, but NV didn't leave any headroom on the table with...

Your last statement is correct, but your thought process is a non-sequitur. Prices did go above the FE ceiling , custom cooled models were charging a premium. The real reason we don't see those "K|NGP|N" type cards is that FE chips didn't do any worse than custom PCB's despite "inferior" power...

Wait I'm confused.... Who the hell is still buying a FE? I bought and EVGA FE back in June for 2 reasons - I watercool so FE is always going to be available as the "stock" PCB while tons of other partners are coming out with stupidly huge custom PCB's which are both pointless and limit your...

Honestly, its a bigger temp difference than I was expecting but am I the only one who isn't shocked by the fact the OC didn't go up? It seems like most of these chips have been limited more by their responsiveness to voltage than temps, and thats been the case for a while. Tj max is 100C on this...

Wow, thats even worse than Ryzen Uh, yea... because people like you are going to rush out and buy it day 0. Bulldozer had motherboards too, so having motherboards and a bunch of cherry picked benches and claims directly from AMD marketing is still proof of nothing. I'll wait and see. If its...

Pretty cynical outlook that doesn't really add up IMO. We're talking about 10+ years of technological advancement, billions more transistors, 2x or more clock speeds and (critically) much much higher heat density. Not to mention designs optimized so much more for TDP than clock speed since these...

The "professional" context of this card is basically a red herring and always has been. We know it, Nvidia knows it, but they keep up the charade because it makes it easier to justify the price tag. Its basically a protectionist move to extort people who will spend the money to get the best...

In my experience, from 2x 290X's to 1x 1080 at 1440P in witcher 3 went from 60fps at med/high settings to 75fps on maxed settings. I guess everyone's definition of "burning through games with aplomb" is a little different... and people who want these GPU's probably don't play at 1080p or give a...