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This is not something I would bet on. Personally I have not been able to get any function from a board that didn’t have bios support for the installed CPU. Perhaps AM5 is more forgiving but never had this type of luck on AM4

Good to know AMD brought back their IGP on non APU desktop CPUs. Does AMD have an equivalent to quick sync or NVENC?

Planes need atmosphere and thus cannot leave the planet

It looks damn near 1:1 to me. 3 unobstructed intake fans vs 1 unobstructed exhaust + 3 going through a radiator and the PSU fan. I’ll bet total cfm in is very close to cfm out. Also, not all cases are designed the same. Some work better with a vacuum some with positive displacement.

Not sure I get the joke

On one hand my 5900x still does everything I need it to do. On the other, I still want a new system. Had a 3900x before, this next round I’m moving away from 6+6 CCD topology to 8+8. With many games utilizing up to 8 cores, I want to minimize CCD to CCD latency. I was hoping this gen would see...

Not to anything that will make an appreciable or even noticeable difference. You need an all new build to take advantage of the monitor and whatever card you decide to go with.

Bronze/Silver/Gold/Platinum/Titanium are simply efficiency classes Vertex/Focus are different tiers. Focus IIRC being the entry level one for Seasonic

Those back plates aren’t plastic

One small exception… x1900/1950xtx cards did achieve that level of success. They didn’t top the charts for as long but they did top the charts.

I'm speculating, but I doubt US government issued 50B in subsidies to bring them over for anything short of their state of the art processes. We already have several sources outside Taiwan in general and TSMC in particular for "lesser" process nodes. Intel, Global Foundries and Samsung all have...

It's only really needed for the dual CCD processors like the 7900x3d and 7950x3d. Some say it also helps with the non x3d versions of those same CPU's. Not necessary on a single CCD cpu like the 7800x3d

Main reason we need that TSMC Arizona fab spun up asap. I mean, not just for 5090's but everything else based on TSMC's processes.

"just" 80% faster at gaming?

3080 for $699 was unobtainium for 2 years. If you wanted one you either got lucky and sniped one before it went OOS or, more commonly, you paid a scalper more than 699. This wasn’t lost on nvidia. Why leave profit on the table when you can cut out the scalper and pocket additional money. I see...

Don't forget the beta males

https://youtu.be/Y8ztpM70jEw?si=Rqz7qqaI4UfTMRYm

No we don't. But we do live in a world where technology improves and what wasn't feasible or economical one year may not be the case in the future, which is why i'm waiting to see what Zen 5 brings.

Hardware acceleration is whatever the default setting is which I’m almost certain is enabled. Still uses cpu cycles, not really a problem on modern CPUs but older 8 cores with no SMT that are already pegged, you notice it. As far as CCDs, I don’t really want two CCDs at all. I’d like one 16...

The main benefit from having >8 cores for gaming is if you do some form of multi-tasking while gaming. I play Warzone often, both my i7 9700k (8 cores) and R9 5900x (12 cores) can run it fine playing solo. However, when I squad up and playing quads while on a Skype video call, there's a...

Dude literally said where to find this info in the 2nd sentence of the post you quoted.

People need to stop saying "best of both worlds" it isn't. It's a compromise. a 7950x3d is still slower than a 7950x in most non-gaming scenarios. Best of both worlds means just that. BEST. It would have to be faster than a 7950x in non gaming workloads and faster than a 7800x3d in gaming workloads.

This was touched on earlier in the thread. Basically vcache can’t run at very high clock speeds so vcache on both CCDs limits clocks on both CCDs which would result in a significant performance loss in applications that don’t benefit from additional cache. The hybrid model is a way for AMD to...

My wife tried to pull that stunt early in our marriage when I came home with a new firearm that I didn’t “run by her first” I knew then it was now or never to set some ground rules. Made it very clear I’m not going to ask permission to spend my money and until/unless the day comes where my...

Diversification. Just like an investment portfolio where not every investment is equally profitable, diversification is important. If you put everything into the single most profitable item, what happens if/when that dries up? Abandoning gamers for X amount of years then trying to re-enter the...

I correlate 3DMark2001 with my 60mm delta screamers.

I would rule out 3060's personally. The Ti variants lack vram and the vanilla 3060 isn't super powerful, you can do better for 300. I would also not limit yourself to nVidia, especially with this class of card which isn't really viable for RT. A 6700XT for example is significantly more powerful...

It’s your words. How do you not follow?

“*When* running properly”

Had a PC with an 8600 and 2080Ti which is more or less on par with the cards referenced here. Snagged a used 9700k (don't remember if it was from here or ebay) dropped her in and had significant improvement @ 1440p

If 4070 to 4070 super triggers the need for a new psu, you need a new psu anyway.

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Plenty of folks with a 4090 that own it for hobby purposes. That Trend will continue with 5090. You can call it what you want but plenty of folks with enough disposable income who are willing to spend it, will own a 5090 to fulfill a hobby.

It’s not ideal but. As far as my hobbies are concerned, pc gaming ranks among the cheapest even with current and rumored pricing taken into account. Every desert trip I take with my toys is a 2k expenditure and that’s about 4x a year and doesn’t include the cost of the toys. $1600-2500 every...

I'd rather be a kid who's never seen a 7950x3d than an adult who's feelings are hurt that internet strangers aren't interested in a 7950x3d. Cry more buddy.

Unfortunately I never said I don't want to download an extra piece of software, I said I don't want to rely on it for proper thread assignment. So whatever point you think you made by telling us what we already know (that game bar is included) proved absolutely nothing except for maybe you're...

There is something ELSE to troubleshoot. I've never needed xbox game bar and if I get a Frankenstein CPU, i'll need xbox gamebar.

If after all this back and forth, you still don't understand that we don't want an EXTRA piece of software dictating core prioritization (that has not been needed in the past) then you're simply too dense to grasp anything beyond your limited bubble. Like I said, i'm sure if/when a 16 core vcach...

You want to avoid misinformation while at the same time you're saying there's nothing to troubleshoot then you should probably stop posting to avoid misinformation.

I don't mind using software, if it's the OS scheduler. I don't want to depend on yet another layer of instructions that needs periodic updates for it to work right, lengthening the pipeline, adding latency. You make it seem like it's free. It isn't, and it's yet another thing to troubleshoot...