Intel 4 is ready to go and 18A is on track for H2 2024

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https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-ceo-fires-back-at-3nm-delay-rumors
https://wccftech.com/intel-4-proces...-2024-with-first-test-chips-already-produced/
There were rumors flying around that Intel was delaying their 3nm launch, Pat Gelsinger has come out and said they are false and they are on track and looking to hit all the targets they set out to.
President of Intel China's Research Institute, Song Jiqiang (Dean) revealed that the 20A and 18A processes have already had test chips taped out, but he did not disclose the specific chips. It is likely to be Intel’s own CPU, or it may be an OEM customer of Intel. Intel confirmed that the 18A process will be Several semiconductor design companies are interested.
Intel on the fabbing side seems to be getting their stuff together!
 
10nm was supposed to go live in 2015 but they didn’t get it working properly until 2018, giving TSMC a full 2 years to surpass them as they got it going on schedule in 2016.

At least Intel can say they got Foveros and EIMB out of the ordeal and their work on next generation transistor design is really interesting.

If you are ever bored look into Intels work on Gate-All-Around stacked Nano-sheets.
 
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Starfalcon said:
Well hopefully this is true, unlike when he said that people's dividends were safe right before he cut them....
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I learned that lesson during the last financial crisis. Dividends are always the first to go during a recession.
You are almost always better off with a company that does NOT offer dividends. While you can realize a 20-30% annual gain through companies that have a bit of history and are focused on growth, with dividends you typically only expect a 6% annual return and the stock stays flat or you lose money over time.
Sure, it's nice to get money back while owning a stock, but you would get even MORE money back by buying a growth stock and selling off a few shares every now and again.
Dividends are like a convenience fee. You don't have to think about. It's like setting up repeat-delivery for a product and not having to think about trying to find the best deal. It generally costs you money in the long run.
 
sleepeeg3 said:
I learned that lesson during the last financial crisis. Dividends are always the first to go during a recession.
You are almost always better off with a company that does NOT offer dividends. While you can realize a 20-30% annual gain through companies that have a bit of history and are focused on growth, with dividends you typically only expect a 6% annual return and the stock stays flat or you lose money over time.
Sure, it's nice to get money back while owning a stock, but you would get even MORE money back by buying a growth stock and selling off a few shares every now and again.
Dividends are like a convenience fee. You don't have to think about. It's like setting up repeat-delivery for a product and not having to think about trying to find the best deal. It generally costs you money in the long run.
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Dividends are also taxed out the wazoo, even if you do the smart thing and DRIP them. And IMO, taxing DRIP makes no sense because they're not realized gains...
 
Centauri said:
Dividends are also taxed out the wazoo, even if you do the smart thing and DRIP them. And IMO, taxing DRIP makes no sense because they're not realized gains...
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The DIVIDEND is a realized gain. Just because you choose to buy more stock with it vs take the cash does not matter.
 
Mega6 said:
The DIVIDEND is a realized gain. Just because you choose to buy more stock with it vs take the cash does not matter.
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But DRIP is automatic. And until you sell out of the share you you have not realized the gain.

Dividends in a retirement fund aren't taxed until all is said and done. For the same reason.
 
Mega6 said:
You're getting MONEY or STOCK from a company out of thin air. That is income.

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/090415/dividend-income-taxable.asp
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You're arguing that it is taxed. I am arguing that it should not be.

Employees who are granted stock as a benefit of employment are not taxed until the stock is sold. It is the same thing I am talking about. Shares of stock are worth nothing until you choose to sell them.

Not sure why this is so incendiary for you.
 
Centauri said:
You're arguing that it is taxed. I am arguing that it should not be.

Employees who are granted stock as a benefit of employment are not taxed until the stock is sold. It is the same thing I am talking about. Shares of stock are worth nothing until you choose to sell them.

Not sure why this is so incendiary for you.
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It doesn't really matter what you or I think, it matters how the tax code is written.

Shareholder Gifts of StockThe distribution of stock to employees, even if labeled as a gift, will generally be taxable as compensation. Employees will be taxable on the fair market value of the stock


If you reinvest your dividends, even through an automatic DRIP, the INternal Revenue Service still considers you to have received the income, and therefore it is taxable.
 
Centauri said:
...okay, I'm done. You're looking for an argument for some reason.

Nanometers to angstroms - yay!
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Fine - You want the REAL answer? It's because sometimes the IRS pulls some non-nonsensical things to extract more taxes from you. Just like crypto isnt currency.. ect. There are in-numerous provisions like this in the US tax code to count. It is the obvious but unwritten reason for these shenanigans.
 
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https://www.extremetech.com/computing/intel-18a-cpus-on-target-for-2025-launch-ceo-confirms
Intel please don't f' this up.

One interesting sidebar to all this news is that in 2022, Gelsinger announced that Intel 18A was "ahead of schedule." At the time, he noted that it was scheduled for 2025, but Intel was roughly six months ahead of that date, so it would arrive in late 2024 instead. With this week's announcement, it seems that is still true today; Gelsinger said 18A production will begin later this year, with volume production happening in the first half of 2025.
 
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